I find this utterly frightening. These children as young as 8 years old, do not understand the implications of such drugs. How are these children going to manage their medications and understand what is happening to their bodies. Let’s not forget the side effects. These are children shame one every single adult voting to support this bill. Legislators should not be interfering in parental rights or medical decisions.
School counselors will refer them for sheltering and helpers to manage their lives and the re gendering process!! No parenting needed... the state will be their parents!!!
On his floor speech he mentioned that he was voting for it because his daughter has endometriosis. That is not a reason to legislate a 12 month supply of hormones with no age restriction. Several of the testifiers were men wearing lipstick pointing to Trump for taking away their hormones.
Not sure I care about parents turning their children into Frankenkinder. This whole thing about challenging nature is really about 'Patents'. That's where the money is and scientist are working round the clock to come up with the next 'new' thing. Lot of money in hormones and 'other' products they use to convince us they "can fool Mother Nature".
David why are you putting this on Parents as the school system is keeping this #top/secret#undisclosed#underwraps#undocumented
This is happening without Parents knowledge OR they are threatened if you fight this with “your little daughter wanting to be a boy” then you will lose her to suicide. The lunatic Dems/Libs and ACLU truely use this!
Most Parents can afford to move their children out of the public schools, SADLY😡 as is the case of a friend of mine. Her kindergartner came home with all kinds of questions about his sexuality and how does she know he is a boy. His school is Whittier in Seattle. They recently made national news for having an LGBTQAII Storytime and had an organizated pro rally goers outside the school! You can’t make this crap 💩 up!😡
Definitely knew it would pass. Did not expect half of the senate republicans to help pass it. On the house side every republican voted no. So yeah…pretty unthinkable.
Senator Holy: Thank you for your speedy and amazingly thorough response to my prior emails re: HB 1971. I am still doing my own research on what this bill is about....here is an initial finding. Planned Parenthood loved it.....big time insurance coverage for their products?! Still thinking this one over....more later!! Cindy Zapotocky
Optics are inflammatory, but sometimes a bill provides utility beyond the inflammatory that forces me to make a judgement call. I have family members who are on such therapy and who scramble for refills when away. Yes, non-preferential uses exist, but the policy itself has good utility for many more than just that group.
Here are a few thoughts… Best,
Jeff
FACTS ABOUT HB 1971
The primary focus of this bill is to provide patients who receive hormone therapy for a variety of reasons to receive more than just a 30-day supply of their medication.
NOTHING IN THE BILL INCREASES ACCESS TO HORMONE THERAPIES OR PUBERTY BLOCKERS.
The bill does apply to patients of all ages, which means that a parent could get a 12-month refill of the hormone therapy their child needs to fight brain cancer or another ailment. Another parent could get up to a 12-month supply when their daughter has issues with her menstrual cycle.
IMPORTANT: HB 1971 does NOT mandate that patients receive a 12-month supply. A patient can request a smaller supply. If the therapy in question is a controlled substance, it may only be reimbursed on a month-to-month basis. If the doctor or prescribing health-care professional directs the pharmacy to provide less than a 12-month supply to the patient, they cannot be overruled.
Based on floor speeches, some have children who have had serious health issues requiring hormone replacement therapy and saw firsthand how being limited to a 30-day supply could be not only inconvenient, but also harmful to their child.
As parents, their vote was influenced by their own experience and concern for others going through the same thing. Other members are on hormone replacement therapy themselves and would appreciate the access to a 12-month supply.
Uses for hormone replacement therapy…
CANCER (all ages)
The primary use for hormone therapy is to treat patients with breast and prostate cancer.
Hormone therapy can reduce the risk of recurrence, shrink tumors before surgery and treat cancer that has spread.
The use of hormone therapy to reduce testosterone levels can slow down the growth of cancer and prevent the need for those with prostate cancer from having to go through surgical castration.
MENOPAUSE
Women experiencing menopause use it to control hot flashes and night sweats. They also use it to prevent against bone loss and osteoporosis.
It can also reduce the risk of heart disease and dementia in women experiencing menopause.
The use of hormone therapy during and after menopause improves the quality of life for many women.
MENSTRUATION AND ENDOMETRIOSIS (adolescents and adults)
Hormone therapy can help women with irregular periods, as well as with ovulation and pregnancy.
Hormone therapy is used to treat endometriosis because it suppresses the rise and fall of hormones during the menstrual cycle, slowing the growth of endometriosis tissue and reducing pain.
GENDER DYSPHORIA
Children of any age who require hormone therapy for cancer treatment, precocious puberty, and hormonal imbalances should have access to the treatments. Treatment in these cases has nothing to do with gender dysphoria.
TO BE CLEAR:
We all believe that giving children hormone therapy for gender dysphoria is wrong. We are also very concerned about the possible increase in the use of hormone therapy in minors FOR THE PURPOSE OF GENDER DYSPHORIA.
The use of puberty blockers in those under 18 is NOT approved by the FDA for gender dysphoria because it lacks the support of clinical trials to establish the safety of such treatment. However, it is legal to use hormone therapy off label for gender dysphoria.
Less than 0.1% of adolescents with private insurance receive hormone therapy.
In a recent study by the Journal of the American Medical Association analyzing private insurance claims found that although about 18,000 youth nationwide have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, fewer than 1,000 received puberty blockers and fewer than 2,000 accessed hormones.
The same study found that no patients under the age of 12 were prescribed hormones.
Possible irreversible damage to children using puberty blockers:
Changes in bone growth and density – can increase the risk of fracture
Reduced fertility
Possible decreased adult height
Possible effects to neurological development
Note: There is limited long-term evidence on the safety and efficacy of puberty blockers in youth, which supports our opposition to minors being able to consent to hormone treatments for gender dysphoria.
Why would someone want more than a 30-day supply?
Consistency and continuity of care
To avoid gaps in medication – avoiding missing doses due to delays in getting refills, which can lead to physical and emotional side effects.
Properly maintaining the hormone levels so they remain stable.
Access and availability
Some medications may be in short supply or may be prone to back orders and getting more than a 30-day supply will prevent someone from being harmed by that.
Those who live in rural or underserved areas may not be able to get to the pharmacy often enough to refill a 30-day supply in time.
Those traveling for work, school or personal reasons may want to ensure they have enough medication on hand for their trip.
Cost and insurance coverage
Patients can save money on their copays by paying bulk pricing for a 90-day supply (or more) of their medication.
Some may want to maximize their purchases after meeting a deductible.
Administrative barriers
Getting an appointment with a specialist in a timely way creates anxiety and interrupts care. Providing a consistent supply helps that.
Longer supplies can bridge bureaucratic gaps.
Mental health and peace of mind
Getting an appointment with a specialist in a timely way creates anxiety and interrupts care. Providing a consistent supply helps that.
Take your kids out of school is the only way to save them
Yes!
I find this utterly frightening. These children as young as 8 years old, do not understand the implications of such drugs. How are these children going to manage their medications and understand what is happening to their bodies. Let’s not forget the side effects. These are children shame one every single adult voting to support this bill. Legislators should not be interfering in parental rights or medical decisions.
School counselors will refer them for sheltering and helpers to manage their lives and the re gendering process!! No parenting needed... the state will be their parents!!!
The legislators are pressing closer and closer to the edge of oblivion
Wait until dad finds out‼️🎺
So sad 😞
I contacted Senator Muzzall to ask him why he voted for this. He's a moderate Republican, but this is just wicked.
On his floor speech he mentioned that he was voting for it because his daughter has endometriosis. That is not a reason to legislate a 12 month supply of hormones with no age restriction. Several of the testifiers were men wearing lipstick pointing to Trump for taking away their hormones.
Not sure I care about parents turning their children into Frankenkinder. This whole thing about challenging nature is really about 'Patents'. That's where the money is and scientist are working round the clock to come up with the next 'new' thing. Lot of money in hormones and 'other' products they use to convince us they "can fool Mother Nature".
David why are you putting this on Parents as the school system is keeping this #top/secret#undisclosed#underwraps#undocumented
This is happening without Parents knowledge OR they are threatened if you fight this with “your little daughter wanting to be a boy” then you will lose her to suicide. The lunatic Dems/Libs and ACLU truely use this!
Most Parents can afford to move their children out of the public schools, SADLY😡 as is the case of a friend of mine. Her kindergartner came home with all kinds of questions about his sexuality and how does she know he is a boy. His school is Whittier in Seattle. They recently made national news for having an LGBTQAII Storytime and had an organizated pro rally goers outside the school! You can’t make this crap 💩 up!😡
millions of students × millions of dollars per procedure + lifetime addiction to expensive hormones = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
You knew to expect this was going to happen…so fight it out and stop crying that it’s unthinkable💀
Definitely knew it would pass. Did not expect half of the senate republicans to help pass it. On the house side every republican voted no. So yeah…pretty unthinkable.
Why didn’t you know better?🤔
OOPS…Parents “CANNOT AFFORD to move their kids out”
This is the exchange I have had with WA Senator Jeff Holy re: HB 1971
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Cynthia Zapotocky <zapox6@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: WA Senate Passes Bill Giving Kids Stockpile of Hormones
To: Holy, Sen. Jeff <Jeff.Holy@leg.wa.gov>
Senator Holy: Thank you for your speedy and amazingly thorough response to my prior emails re: HB 1971. I am still doing my own research on what this bill is about....here is an initial finding. Planned Parenthood loved it.....big time insurance coverage for their products?! Still thinking this one over....more later!! Cindy Zapotocky
https://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/planned-parenthood-alliance-advocates/press-releases/washington-house-of-representatives-passes-landmark-bill-expanding-access-to-hormone-therapy
On Thu, Apr 17, 2025 at 3:05 PM Holy, Sen. Jeff <Jeff.Holy@leg.wa.gov> wrote:
Optics are inflammatory, but sometimes a bill provides utility beyond the inflammatory that forces me to make a judgement call. I have family members who are on such therapy and who scramble for refills when away. Yes, non-preferential uses exist, but the policy itself has good utility for many more than just that group.
Here are a few thoughts… Best,
Jeff
FACTS ABOUT HB 1971
The primary focus of this bill is to provide patients who receive hormone therapy for a variety of reasons to receive more than just a 30-day supply of their medication.
NOTHING IN THE BILL INCREASES ACCESS TO HORMONE THERAPIES OR PUBERTY BLOCKERS.
The bill does apply to patients of all ages, which means that a parent could get a 12-month refill of the hormone therapy their child needs to fight brain cancer or another ailment. Another parent could get up to a 12-month supply when their daughter has issues with her menstrual cycle.
IMPORTANT: HB 1971 does NOT mandate that patients receive a 12-month supply. A patient can request a smaller supply. If the therapy in question is a controlled substance, it may only be reimbursed on a month-to-month basis. If the doctor or prescribing health-care professional directs the pharmacy to provide less than a 12-month supply to the patient, they cannot be overruled.
Based on floor speeches, some have children who have had serious health issues requiring hormone replacement therapy and saw firsthand how being limited to a 30-day supply could be not only inconvenient, but also harmful to their child.
As parents, their vote was influenced by their own experience and concern for others going through the same thing. Other members are on hormone replacement therapy themselves and would appreciate the access to a 12-month supply.
Uses for hormone replacement therapy…
CANCER (all ages)
The primary use for hormone therapy is to treat patients with breast and prostate cancer.
Hormone therapy can reduce the risk of recurrence, shrink tumors before surgery and treat cancer that has spread.
The use of hormone therapy to reduce testosterone levels can slow down the growth of cancer and prevent the need for those with prostate cancer from having to go through surgical castration.
MENOPAUSE
Women experiencing menopause use it to control hot flashes and night sweats. They also use it to prevent against bone loss and osteoporosis.
It can also reduce the risk of heart disease and dementia in women experiencing menopause.
The use of hormone therapy during and after menopause improves the quality of life for many women.
MENSTRUATION AND ENDOMETRIOSIS (adolescents and adults)
Hormone therapy can help women with irregular periods, as well as with ovulation and pregnancy.
Hormone therapy is used to treat endometriosis because it suppresses the rise and fall of hormones during the menstrual cycle, slowing the growth of endometriosis tissue and reducing pain.
GENDER DYSPHORIA
Children of any age who require hormone therapy for cancer treatment, precocious puberty, and hormonal imbalances should have access to the treatments. Treatment in these cases has nothing to do with gender dysphoria.
TO BE CLEAR:
We all believe that giving children hormone therapy for gender dysphoria is wrong. We are also very concerned about the possible increase in the use of hormone therapy in minors FOR THE PURPOSE OF GENDER DYSPHORIA.
The use of puberty blockers in those under 18 is NOT approved by the FDA for gender dysphoria because it lacks the support of clinical trials to establish the safety of such treatment. However, it is legal to use hormone therapy off label for gender dysphoria.
Less than 0.1% of adolescents with private insurance receive hormone therapy.
In a recent study by the Journal of the American Medical Association analyzing private insurance claims found that although about 18,000 youth nationwide have been diagnosed with gender dysphoria, fewer than 1,000 received puberty blockers and fewer than 2,000 accessed hormones.
The same study found that no patients under the age of 12 were prescribed hormones.
Possible irreversible damage to children using puberty blockers:
Changes in bone growth and density – can increase the risk of fracture
Reduced fertility
Possible decreased adult height
Possible effects to neurological development
Note: There is limited long-term evidence on the safety and efficacy of puberty blockers in youth, which supports our opposition to minors being able to consent to hormone treatments for gender dysphoria.
Why would someone want more than a 30-day supply?
Consistency and continuity of care
To avoid gaps in medication – avoiding missing doses due to delays in getting refills, which can lead to physical and emotional side effects.
Properly maintaining the hormone levels so they remain stable.
Access and availability
Some medications may be in short supply or may be prone to back orders and getting more than a 30-day supply will prevent someone from being harmed by that.
Those who live in rural or underserved areas may not be able to get to the pharmacy often enough to refill a 30-day supply in time.
Those traveling for work, school or personal reasons may want to ensure they have enough medication on hand for their trip.
Cost and insurance coverage
Patients can save money on their copays by paying bulk pricing for a 90-day supply (or more) of their medication.
Some may want to maximize their purchases after meeting a deductible.
Administrative barriers
Getting an appointment with a specialist in a timely way creates anxiety and interrupts care. Providing a consistent supply helps that.
Longer supplies can bridge bureaucratic gaps.
Mental health and peace of mind
Getting an appointment with a specialist in a timely way creates anxiety and interrupts care. Providing a consistent supply helps that.